Josh: 0:00

Uh I I've played in cover bands. Um it's been a minute since I've actually played in the one that I r I usually do, but um this gives you lots of exposure to really freaking cheesy music. And so I've had to learn many, many songs that are just pretty terrible and yet I kind of love them. Um I mean like Faith by George Michael comes to mind.

Pamela: 0:23

Okay. Like which is so funny because I just listened to the Limp Biscuit version. Listen, y'all, judge me, it's okay. You're listening to premeditated opinions because yes, we thought about it, and then we said it anyway. I'm Pamela.

Josh: 0:47

And I'm Josh, and we are two people who somehow share a brain and decided to weaponize our brains with microphones. Each week, we unpack anything from politics and religion to carpool dread and everything in between.

Pamela: 1:00

You know, it would really help us a lot if you followed us on Instagram and YouTube. Giving us a like and a follow is probably the best thing your thumbs will do today.

Josh: 1:08

We are not experts. We are just way too confident in our own opinions. With all that being said, let's get started. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. We are thrilled to not see you, but you can see us. Lucky you. What a time to be alive. You get to see us whenever you want. Like most people would pay extra. But here you are, and here we are. And we're thrilled um to be back in this with you. So today, we are going to play a game called Bad Opinions. This is also from the great people over at Dice Games um who have hooked us up with this among other things. And this all kind of came about because I pitched the idea of like, hey, we should do a podcast episode sometime that is really centered around strong opinions that we have in really low stakes things.

Pamela: 1:54

But I couldn't think of like opinions, so we had to go with the game.

Josh: 1:58

Well, I mean, this was this was available to us, and so why not? And so um we are not going to play by the actual rules of this game because we never do. We never do. And it's because there's two of us, because it's built for more people.

Pamela: 2:12

True. It does say three plus, seventeen plus.

Josh: 2:15

Right. Yeah.

Pamela: 2:16

I mean we should be able to knock this out in 30 minutes. We will stretch it to much longer than that because yeah.

Josh: 2:22

Right. But but the general the general concept of bad opinions is uh it they describe it as it's the hilarious and thought-provoking party game for people who love to agree to disagree on almost anything. Express your most compelling unpopular opinions on a wide variety of topics and challenge one another's hot takes for a chance to be crowned the Rant Master. We're not going to be crowning a rant master today because it's obviously me. But if we are playing by the rules at the end of this, we crown a rant master. And so we encourage you to pick this up and play it and find your own rant master.

Pamela: 2:57

Maybe we will play the rules because now agree to disagree.

Josh: 3:03

I've I've triggered the competitive. Um, and so anyway, but but we're we're going to we're gonna comb through these cards a little bit and and just have some fun with it. Um but yeah, bad opinions from Dice Games, please pick it up. Um, I'm sure we can throw a link in the description. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. And uh have some fun with that. But anyway, I'm just gonna dive us right into this um because I don't have anything else prepared. So that that's that's why this is happening.

Pamela: 3:28

Yeah, and I went last, I went first last time.

Josh: 3:31

You did, you did. Okay, so um uh first blood. Here we go. Uh the first thing you would do if you were invisible for a day. Oh see, oh man, I gotta give this a smidge of thought because like you can go really responsible with this or irresponsible with this. Um gosh, if I were invisible for a day, I I think I would have to I think I would I would make efforts at going responsible with this and not being just a big ol' weirdo.

Pamela: 4:05

Like hanging out in like the women's locker room.

Josh: 4:09

That's gross. Um I I think I would actively try to not be that gross. I would I would do something like I would find an injustice that might that I could somehow sway the other direction, but not have to like be seen as a result. And I don't even have an example for this. I would I would try and find something where I could be influential for the better without being visible. I I don't I don't know how else to say it. Like I I would want to use my powers for good, Spider-Man style, you know, and so this is where we agree to disagree because I would go full petty and I would be in the homes of the people that have done me wrong, and I'm gonna be collecting the dirt. Yeah, taking photos and like yeah, gathering evidence. That's that's fair. I could collecting that blackmail, like I can think of some political figures that I would I would wander into.

Pamela: 5:13

Oh no, these would be like previous bosses. Like I could ruin your life in two seconds.

Josh: 5:23

That's that's tempting though. Cause like I there's a previous boss in particular I can think of that boy, I would just love to dig around.

Pamela: 5:34

So you're the angel and I'm the devil here.

Josh: 5:36

Yeah, well, for the moment. Like I have a feeling we'll do some code switching. But yeah, for starters, yes, I can be the angel.

Pamela: 5:45

Ooh. A reason why some people should not be allowed to have children.

Josh: 5:51

Oh.

Pamela: 5:56

That's tough. A reason why people should not be allowed to have children. I mean, we could go dark with this.

Josh: 6:03

Yeah, and that's kind of where my head went.

Pamela: 6:05

Yeah, like like if you if your children end up in foster care foster care because of whatever you are or are not doing, then those people should not be allowed to have children. I agree with that.

Josh: 6:28

I think if you are a known abuser in in any category.

Pamela: 6:32

Yeah.

Josh: 6:32

In any category. Yep.

Pamela: 6:34

If you're a known abuser, now I do believe that people can change.

Josh: 6:38

Yeah.

Pamela: 6:39

But I just think that like if you are not ready to be a parent, you shouldn't be.

Josh: 6:45

So yeah, oh a million percent, yeah.

unknown: 6:48

Okay.

Josh: 6:48

All right. We are on the same page. Um, a cheesy song that is your guilty pleasure. Oh man, where do I begin? Um, okay, so most of you know that I am uh I I've played in cover bands. Um, it's been a minute since I've actually played in the one that I usually do, but um this gives you lots of exposure to really freaking cheesy music. And so I've had to learn many, many songs that are just pretty terrible and yet I kind of love them. Um I mean, like Faith by George Michael comes to mind.

Pamela: 7:26

Okay. Like I was like, Which is so funny because I just listened to the limp biscuit version. Listen, y'all, judge me, it's okay. I've been on a like limp biscuit, like early 2000s metal kick, new metal kick here lately. I don't I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's happening.

Josh: 7:46

This has nothing to do with the card, but you're saying like metal and new metal. Thoughts on Muse. Do you like Muse?

Pamela: 7:53

I do, yeah.

Josh: 7:54

I love Muse.

Pamela: 7:56

I'll go through Muse phases, but I wouldn't say like I'm probably not gonna seek them out on like Apple Music or Spotify, but like, yeah. I'm I'm just a huge nerd because that kind of falls in the category for me of like Snow Patrol.

Josh: 8:11

Oh, okay.

Pamela: 8:12

And like, yeah.

Josh: 8:14

Yeah, I love Snow Patrol, like Passion Pit.

Pamela: 8:17

Um I don't know what you call that. I don't know what that is. That's not new metal.

Josh: 8:22

No, no, Snow Patrol is definitely not. Snow Patrol is definitely it's it's not alternative, it's like it's it would be almost like a soft alternative, like something because they'll they'll lean in some of the things. Yeah, yeah, deathcab, and and I'd even put well, we're kind of getting a little emo now, but you could even put like dashboard confessional in some of that category. Um, but yeah, anyway. Muse is cool for me because I they were doing things with guitars that no one else was doing at the time, they're actually still doing it, and what I mean by that is like their guitar player is like this electronics genius, and he'll build custom guitars with like triggers built into the guitar that will trigger keyboard sounds and things like that. So it anyway, it's really cool. I'm just a nerd. Uh cheesy song that's your guilty pleasure, Faith by George Michael will be one of mine. Um I don't know that this is cheesy, it's just unexpected. Like, I all of Whitney Houston's hits I think are amazing. Okay. Like, I I I you can't take her greatness away from her. She's unbelievable.

Pamela: 9:27

Mine went to my mind went to Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus.

Josh: 9:32

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Pamela: 9:34

But it's about that song comes on, you just can't not.

Josh: 9:38

Yeah, it kind of slaps. It's it's espresso like by Sabrina Carpenter.

Pamela: 9:41

Like, but that's not cheesy.

Josh: 9:43

It's not, but it's it's poppy and it slaps. Yeah, that's awesome. All right.

Pamela: 9:48

Oh, it's my turn. A job you think everyone should experience.

Josh: 9:53

Oh, I have thoughts.

Pamela: 9:55

I mean, the first one that comes to mind is a server. Now, to be fair, I have never been a server, I've never worked in a restaurant or any of that, but like I have deep respect for servers and people in those um roles. Uh also retail.

Josh: 10:13

Yeah, oh, for sure.

Pamela: 10:14

I worked in several retail jobs, very thankless. Um, people just think that they can talk to you however they want and you know.

Josh: 10:24

No, I I agree with both of those. I think the like the only one worth adding, and I don't even have like a specific job for this, but I think that anything where you are dealing with young people or kids, I think is is helpful for people to experience because I think it's easy to miss just how broad the experiences of each individual kid are until you're in a space with a bunch of them, and then you're like, oh man, all of y'all are coming from such different backgrounds, such different approaches from your parents and things like that. Like, I I I think that that but like you, like I have not necessarily done that, I just have kids.

Pamela: 11:03

I'm pretty sure I avoided all of those roles growing up. I was not a babysitter, I I wanted nothing to do with children. Yeah, I surprisingly though, I have really awesome kids. Oh, you have great kids, so I've done something right.

Josh: 11:17

Well, and beyond that, like I have been a server, I've been a bartender, I've worked in hospitality. Like, that is critical. I do think that that's a rite of passage. More people should experience that. It changes your perspective. You start tipping a lot better.

Pamela: 11:31

Yeah, I just I don't understand whether you've been in a server or not, like I don't understand the mentality of treating them like crap.

Josh: 11:39

No, I don't either.

Pamela: 11:40

And and unless it is like blatantly like blatantly horrible service, blatant disrespect toward you, like things like that.

Josh: 11:53

Yeah. But I just it takes so much to hit that tripwire for me.

Pamela: 11:59

It does, and I've had horrible service and still tipped pretty well. Yeah, like I have too. You have to like I have to want to like take you outside, like for me to not tip you.

Josh: 12:10

I remember this one instance where I had a client in town and I had taken them to dinner at a well-reviewed spot in uh South Dallas, which there's not a lot of restaurants in South Dallas, but we were in the Bishop Arts area, which is a really well-known spot. And so um we had gone to a place down there and I was with a client and his family, and I had some colleagues with me and stuff, and I don't know what was going on with our server, but I refuse to believe that they were sober. Like, and I don't think it was alcohol, I think it was something else.

Pamela: 12:46

Probably I mean, unfortunately, like that's a thing. Oh, yeah. And like I've never personally experienced it, but I've heard from several people who've worked in in you know the restaurant industry, I don't know what you call that. Um drugs are very oh, they're prevalent, prevalent, yeah.

Josh: 13:03

They're all over the place. But this was the first time that I had really experienced something where it was just so obvious that it was making me uncomfortable. And I mean, this is maybe one of three times I have ever done this. But I I remember going to that, the the manager who was working, I was like, hey, I am not trying to throw shade, you know, everyone has a rough day. I get it, but I'm here with a client and we are it's really falling apart over there. And and they jumped to action and it all got better, but but I didn't see that server again.

Pamela: 13:36

I feel like I've had a couple of experiences like that, like very few, very minimal, like maybe one or two. I can't remember specifics, but where it was very obvious that something was wrong.

Josh: 13:48

Yeah, and I get it, it's a social position, and you know, if you're having a rough day, then I I could see how it would translate to to what you're doing. Um a US city that will not exist or be wildly different in the next 50 years. That's interesting. That will not exist, that will not exist or be wildly different. I I feel like I can make some cases for wildly different. It's hard to be like, oh, it's not gonna exist.

Pamela: 14:18

Like I don't know, we're getting closer and closer to the hunger games around here.

Josh: 14:23

I mean, yeah. Yeah, you're not wrong. I mean, the honestly, the first one that came to mind is Austin. Um, I think it'll be wildly different. I absolutely think it will exist. I I just think it's changing.

Pamela: 14:37

Well, it's an or, so it's not an and.

Josh: 14:40

Yeah, yeah. So for me, I mean, I think Austin's a good example of this because they had such a big tech boom um right before the pandemic, and then the pandemic hit, and all the people who are flocking to Austin and the businesses that were flocking to Austin really slowed down. Now, what has not slowed down down there is Tesla and SpaceX, but um they're kind of the outliers now. Like there were there was this huge push for people to get to Central Texas, and it just it's not there. Real estate prices went really high really fast. All of that has started to come down and stabilize. Like, I just I don't I think it's still gonna be a cool city, I think it's still gonna be a hub for the arts. I think that Tesla and SpaceX will remain down there because they have such massive campuses down there, but I don't know, I think it's gonna be different.

Pamela: 15:28

Yeah, I hope that's gonna shrink. I just hope it's not ruined.

Josh: 15:32

No, I don't think it'll be ruined.

Pamela: 15:34

Austin was a really cool so Austin to me was like if you took Louisville and Nashville and smushed them together, you get Austin. Yeah, yeah. So it's you know, it's a bigger city like Nashville, a little more country, cowboy, like Nashville, but had that indie edge to it, like Louisville has. So yeah. Um and Louisville, I think I've said this before, Louisville steals a lot of ideas and things from Austin. Um I would just hate to see, I mean, I hate to see that culture go away. Um, but I don't know, 50 years are we even we won't I don't think we'll even be around in 50 years.

Josh: 16:21

I mean, I'll be 90, and that seems optimistic for me personally. For sure. Yeah. Um, but who knows? Maybe by the time that you and I are octogenarians, they'll just have a pill that can extend our lives by decades.

Pamela: 16:35

Yeah, because I mean I guess if you think backwards, how different is Austin from from 50 years ago?

Josh: 16:42

Yeah, very, I mean, extremely different.

Pamela: 16:45

Really? Yeah, because it was okay, minus the tech boom.

Josh: 16:49

So before the tech boom, Austin was really kind of buoyed by the fact that it was the capital and buoyed by UT. Um, because UT's been around since like the late 1800s. So it's always it was kind of this political town because of it being the capital, and then it largely it was a college town. It was a college town and a live music hub. Um, and like as tech companies started to leave California and other areas and look for someplace to go, Texas has always tried to be a bit business friendly, and so that did draw some businesses there initially that weren't even big tech companies, just folks wanting something different. Um, but yeah, I mean it it's definitely changed a ton in the last 50 years, and I could see it not like shrinking substantially. I just think it's plateaued and will probably shrink some. And I don't know.

Pamela: 17:41

You know, okay, okay. A city that probably won't be around, Miami.

Josh: 17:45

I have the same thought. I had the same thought, I didn't say it.

Pamela: 17:48

So yeah, I mean, I'm sure a lot of those coastal cities, I mean, if we're gonna just think that climate change is a hoax, and you know, if we don't start working on reversing some of that, which we're already seeing the effects, we won't get into all that. But I mean, I can definitely see that. Maybe Juneau, Alaska, Hawaii.

Josh: 18:13

Yeah, I think some Hawaiian communities, yeah. Yeah, California will just earthquake away.

Pamela: 18:20

This is hard. Wait, is this mine? Yeah, this is mine. Your proudest moment.

Josh: 18:27

Oh, okay. I just have so many. Like really?

Pamela: 18:34

I have the option.

Josh: 18:35

No, I have one. I was trolling you.

Pamela: 18:40

Um I okay, a pro my proudest moment that I don't think I appreciated at the time, but I appreciate now is becoming a mom.

Josh: 18:50

Yeah, hell yeah.

Pamela: 18:51

And that's probably a pretty cliche thing to say, but like there's nothing like uh creating life.

Josh: 19:01

Yeah.

Pamela: 19:02

Like it's it's kind of hard to top that.

Josh: 19:05

Right.

Pamela: 19:05

Um and I know a lot of people kind of take it for granted or struggle with that. Um, but I think and I don't think I appreciate it, like I said, I don't think I appreciated it at the time that it happened. I mean, I kind of did, but not to the level like that I am now.

Josh: 19:27

I mean, hindsight has a way of of really making an impact. And so I'm not at all surprised by that. I think I think there is no better word for what happens in that whole season of pregnancy and childbirth than miraculous. It is fundamentally miraculous. And I I yeah, I totally see how that could be a proudest moment.

Pamela: 19:54

I you know, it I don't know that I have I feel like this would even apply, like, if I adopted. Like, like just becoming a mom.

Josh: 20:07

Yeah.

Pamela: 20:08

And like accepting that title and the sacrifice that comes with it.

Josh: 20:13

Like yeah, it's a big deal.

Pamela: 20:16

You know, I was actually watching Love is Blind, and there's a scene right in yeah, Love is Blind 10 Ohio. I am who I am. Um but there's a scene where they talk about there's one couple kind of going back and forth on having kids. And I was watching a couple TikToks today where the sister of the girl, so the girl was kind of unsure if she wanted to have children. The guy really wanted to have kids, and the sister of the girl was basically like, I don't regret having kids, but if I got to the end of my life and had and had got a redo, I wouldn't have children. And I'm like, So you just told national television that you regret having children.

Josh: 20:59

Yeah, I don't know that I would have said that. Um yeah, even if I felt it.

Pamela: 21:03

Yeah, and so I just totally forgot where I was going with that.

Josh: 21:08

Well, so like I I adoption and proudest moments and becoming a mom, even when Yeah, like I still think that however you become a parent and you want that, like to me, I mean, just shape a young mind and and all of that.

Pamela: 21:30

It's just and now I think I think I started to appreciate and be proud of that because seeing my kids now, how smart and funny and just how they're just great people. Like I am so looking forward to them becoming teenagers and adults and like really seeing what they do in the world. Like that is kind of I think that kind of shapes that proud.

Josh: 21:58

Oh yeah. I definitely like on the paternal side of things, it's you know, my experience is a smidge different uh as far as you know the the child carrying, the child birthing process and all that. I will say, and I don't I don't want to dovetail us too hard, but um when Krista and I got pregnant with our son, we were uninsured at the time. And um we met with her doctor and we talked about all sorts of different things, including cost, which was a you know a big factor for us. And and so due to a lot of factors, um we ended up going with a midwife to actually you know navigate really both of our kids' um births, and the way that a midwife kind of brings dads into the process was really cool and different and unique, and and I I found a lot of value in that. Um, but one kind of proud moment that I had was this was when Krista was pregnant with Willow, our daughter. Um she like we were in the delivery room, and I actually caught Willow with substantial supervision and instruction. Like I was not just in there, you know, raw dog in this bird. It was just it was very like controlled and all that. Yeah, but but there was sort of this moment for me of like, oh, I I'm I'm involved on some really cool level in this, and I was here for it, man. I I loved it, I thought it was amazing, and um, you know, I I don't know that that was my proudest moment, but but it was certainly a moment of tremendous pride. I felt like I was just involved in this whole thing on this small level, but then yeah, it's everything that comes after that for for me. It's it's you know, I I can't physically carry and birth a child, but the the molding and the conversations and the the the the teaching and and the even the correction and learning how to correct as a parent and all that's a huge deal. And so yeah, I think it definitely parenting it this isn't a clean answer, but my proudest moment certainly has something to do with parenting. It for me it's more of a combination of moments, you know, it's it's a lot of things under that umbrella that have created a situation where yeah, I'm pretty pretty proud of what I've done as a parent. Um on a much more lighthearted note, an ice cream flavor you haven't seen but think would be successful.

Pamela: 24:38

Espresso martini.

Josh: 24:41

That's a good one. Is it boozy? Like, is it complete with vodka? Like a little Kalua drizzle.

Pamela: 24:50

Yeah, I mean, it may be.

Josh: 24:52

Or just just the just the ice cream flavor.

Pamela: 24:55

Probably just the flavor. Yeah, you know, because kids.

Josh: 24:58

Yeah, yeah. That's a good one.

Pamela: 25:00

Um but yeah.

Josh: 25:02

Yeah, I haven't seen that. It it might be out there, but I haven't seen it. So, fun fact, ladies and gentlemen, I have the world's most laid-back dairy allergy. It's really not that big of a deal. I don't even really tell anybody because all I really can't eat is like raw milk. Not raw, raw, like the stuff you buy in a jug at the grocery store.

Pamela: 25:22

Yeah, you can't just drink a glass of milk. Right. I can't just drink a glass of milk. So you and I are on the same page with I have a casein allergy. So it's yeah.

Josh: 25:29

So like raw milk, um, stuff that's loaded with heavy cream, I kind of struggle with, um, and soft cheeses for some reason. Okay. Um, and then ice cream. I have to avoid those four cream.

Pamela: 25:44

I'm sorry, I will die eating queso. Like you you'll have to get that out of my cold dead hands. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: 25:52

So this is a total aside.

Pamela: 25:53

And that I'm gonna that this this is if they made espresso martini ice cream, like I am going to be miserable and bloated and full of water for like yes. Yes.

Josh: 26:07

And if they make it boozy, like you know, I wonder if I wonder if we could have straw uh like chocolate-covered strawberry ice cream. Because I like chocolate-covered strawberries.

Pamela: 26:19

I mean, wouldn't that just be chocolate strawberry? Like chocolate with strawberries? Probably.

Josh: 26:24

I just haven't seen it. Okay, yeah.

Pamela: 26:25

No, that's true.

Josh: 26:26

I haven't seen it. But uh, and and here's here's a shameless plug. So if you're listening to me describe my dairy allergy and you're like, oh, that sounds like me. I have a shameless plug for you. Um, there is a relatively new ice cream brand called Van Leuwen, L-E-E-W-E-N. It's a Dutch company. And uh they make all of these vegan ice creams, they make regular ice cream too, and it's delicious, but they make vegan ice creams that are mostly based on either coconut milk or oat milk. Holy smokes! They're delicious. I cannot believe how good they are. So if you're like me and you can't eat regular ice cream, Van Lewen is what you need to look for. It's fabulous. Um interesting.

Pamela: 27:10

I usually go with like Sherbert's or sorbet's. I love like a raspberry sorbet. Um, yeah, so Ben and Jerry's, uh Bluebell, like Espresso Martini. Yeah. They're probably already working on that.

Josh: 27:25

UX million dollar idea.

Pamela: 27:26

Right? I I need resid. I need residuals from that. Ooh, the most overrated movie series.

Josh: 27:36

Oh man, I can make some people big mad with this.

Pamela: 27:39

Oh, I'm gonna make some people big mad with this.

Josh: 27:41

You can make me big mad.

Pamela: 27:43

Um, because I hate this actor, and that's the only reason I'm saying this.

Josh: 27:47

Okay.

Pamela: 27:48

Mission Impossible.

Josh: 27:50

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

Pamela: 27:52

I hate Tom Cruise. Like, go to hell.

Josh: 28:00

Does that have anything to do with his connection to Scientology?

Pamela: 28:03

Oh, yeah, but that's a big part of it. So he's actually from Louisville.

Josh: 28:06

Is he?

Pamela: 28:07

Well, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, so he well, I say he's from Louisville. He did go to Saint X uh in Louisville. Um, that's a high school. Catholic high school. Um, actually, Josh's mom knew him or met him or something. Um he's he has Shortman syndrome. Ah yeah he is a D-bag. So he was an ass before Scientology, and then that just was icing on the cake. So I have not seen Maverick, I have not seen a lot of I refuse, refuse to watch anything Tom Cruise.

Josh: 28:41

Okay, that's that's helpful. Um so I'm with you on the Mission Impossible series for sure. Like I it contributes nothing to cinema for me. I don't care about it. I've seen several of them just because I've been places where it was on or whatever.

Pamela: 28:57

Um I hope we get canceled for that.

Josh: 29:00

Somehow I think we're safe. Um I am such a sucker though for the original Top Gun. Like I do love that movie. And I watched Maverick just because it it's part of that whole Top Gun scene.

Pamela: 29:18

Laura's still trying to convince me to watch it, and I'm sure it's great. I just can't. Like, I am just boycotting, and that's fine.

Josh: 29:25

I I don't think you're actually missing a lot. I'm sure it is amazing. I know you're here listening.

Pamela: 29:30

Uh so to be fair, her nephew is in the military, in the Air Force, and so he flies Air Force planes, you know, fighter jets and stuff. So I get I get her the appeal there. And I'm sure it is an amazing movie, but absolutely not. Like you should have cast someone else.

Josh: 29:53

I am such an aviation nerd that that's what draws me to it. Like, I I just can't help myself. It's a fun ride, it's fine. You're not missing that much. Um, but it, yeah, you know, if you ever if you ever decide to venture again.

Pamela: 30:10

I went with Mission Impossible versus Top Gun.

Josh: 30:13

But yeah, yeah.

Pamela: 30:14

I mean uh really it's just Tom Cruise. Um so I tried to pick one of his more popular yeah, no, that tracks.

Josh: 30:24

Um for me, it's gosh. Uh there's plenty of movie series that I think the first one is really good, and then I think it loses itself. Yeah. Um, and so like like I really love Keanu Reeves.

Pamela: 30:42

Oh, yeah.

Josh: 30:43

And I really like the first John Wick. I and the second and third one, I was like, what are we doing? This this is it's fine.

Pamela: 30:52

It's I thought you were gonna say the Matrix.

Josh: 30:55

So, okay. I have I have hot sports opinions about The Matrix because Settle in, folks. I I love the first one. I it took me loved it.

Pamela: 31:06

I I cannot tell you how many times I had to watch it to get it.

Josh: 31:10

That's fine.

Pamela: 31:11

It took a long time for me to be like, the hell just happened. What is going on?

Josh: 31:16

Oh, I was here for it. I I loved it. I thought it was groundbreaking because it absolutely was. When when the when the then Wachowski brothers, not Wachowski brothers anymore, but when the then Wachowski brothers actually made that film, I was like, nothing looks like this, nothing feels like this. Like this is completely mind F yes, but I was here for it. Give me the all the red pills and blue pills sweats.

Pamela: 31:42

The soundtrack was really incredible.

Josh: 31:44

Yeah. Um you were talking about kind of being in a in a heavy metal kind of new metal mood that that original one has got Rob Zombie all over it, it's got like all sorts of cool rock. Um, I loved the first one. I really liked the second one. The third one started like I knew they were gonna have to bring some resolution to it, and so I understood what they were doing with the third one, but it also felt like maybe a bridge too far. But but the John Wick movies in particular, I was like, uh like the first one was great, and I loved Keanu Reeves and I loved him in that role. And I just I they lost me after the first one, though. I watched the second and third one, I just couldn't, I didn't really care about them.

Pamela: 32:26

Okay, well, just don't be surprised if JT tries to fight you. That's fine, come over. That's not even he loves the John Wick stuff. I haven't seen it.

Josh: 32:35

It's yeah, they're they're a good time, but I just think the first one is it it it could stop after the first one and been fine. But I think that's most movie series.

Pamela: 32:43

I do need to watch it though. I mean, I know it's good. I just I just have never gotten around watching it. I have love is blind to catch up on people. Come on. More important things, all right.

Josh: 32:54

Um, an athlete you think is underrated. Underrated. This is an interesting one. Um, because like the I can go kind of obscure with it. Like, okay, so I let me set the stage. I am a sports fan, I do enjoy sports, I primarily watch football and basketball, um, but also enjoy hockey from time to time. I'm not much of a baseball guy. I'll kind of keep up, but not really. But football, basketball, and sort of hockey are the sports I follow. Um, within those sports, I could I have loads of examples I think that would be just very obscure and mostly alienate people. Um I I think I'm gonna go with a category in this instead of an individual athlete because I think that'll have a broader reach.

Pamela: 33:44

Okay.

Josh: 33:45

So a category of athletes that I think are massively underrated are like the the track stars of the Olympics, like Summer Olympic Games, the people who are like doing these incredible races on foot. Like, I just think there's such a purity to it, and like, you know, that gun goes off and then they are just like running a mile in three minutes, yeah, and just yeah, I know you might as well just kill me. Like, I cannot ever do that, but I I I watch the track stuff, um, and I'll give one more. So I think the track athletes are incredible. I think like boxing and MMA is incredible, like the athleticism of a lot of that is really insane. Now, is it fun always to watch people's faces get smashed by another human? Not really.

Pamela: 34:42

Like, I don't like that.

Josh: 34:43

Yeah, Krista's not into it either. I get it. I do just I do think there's an incredible athleticism to it.

Pamela: 34:49

Um if we're going with like a like a genre, I would say Le Mon.

Josh: 34:55

Oh. I love this answer. Okay, for so for the uninitiated, tell tell the ladies and gentlemen what Le Mans is.

Pamela: 35:03

Le Mans is that's a good that's a good question. So it's uh it's a car race in France. It's 24 hours. Um, but it's uh honestly, you might know more about it than I do. Um it's a particular type of vehicle.

Josh: 35:21

Well, it's yeah, it's a category of vehicles, so it's it's a it's a very controlled category of vehicle. The vehicles have to meet a certain um uh several certainly.

Pamela: 35:30

Oh, there's a lot of specs.

Josh: 35:32

Yeah, and so the the idea is to have the vehicles all be relatively similar so that the differences with from team to team are more about the driver than the vehicle. And Laman is broken up um into legs, and so I believe it's four six-hour legs, I believe. Um I haven't actually looked up the rules in the last few years, so this could be different now, but um then you just have these these drivers out there that are pulling these marathon efforts and keeping the car running and staying in their position and all that. That's a great one. I I like that.

Pamela: 36:09

Yeah, because everybody talks about F1, everybody talks about Natscar. No one talks about Laman. Yeah, and it's but it it's I mean it's serious, yeah.

Josh: 36:18

Yeah, I'd love to go to one of those races sometimes. Just just just to see the spectacle. Reason to go to France, absolutely, yeah. I am on board, yeah. But anyway, I don't remember which turn it is. I think it's yours, yeah.

Pamela: 36:31

A clothing brand or style you find off-putting.

Josh: 36:35

Oh. What you think?

Pamela: 36:39

Clothing brand or style. I mean, I've never liked Abercrombie and fish. Um let's see, style. I don't know. I f I thought I would have a better answer for this, but did I find off pudding? I mean, honestly, I was watching The Traders, the show. It's on Peacock or uh NBC, I think that's NBC. Um they always do like fashion like looks, which that's some people's cup of tea. But I'm like, I don't know. I am not a high fashion kind of person.

Josh: 37:25

Uh well, and I just and correct me, I'm I'm not at all trying to make assumptions here, but like it seems like fashion in general isn't something that you like you have a look that you execute very, very well and you know how to stay within that look for yourself personally, but I've never known you to be super interested in other people's fashion. Is that a fair statement?

Pamela: 37:49

Yeah, yeah. And I think like I can appreciate high fashion as an art.

Josh: 37:53

Yeah.

Pamela: 37:54

But sometimes I'm just like side-eyed. Like, it's what are we doing?

Josh: 38:00

It gets weird real quick.

Pamela: 38:01

But that reunion of that show, so season four, they had the reunion, they just I'm like, are y'all just trying to outwild each other? You know?

Josh: 38:09

I do you have a particular so so what the card says is the clothing brand or style you find off-putting. So I'm gonna extend that a little bit. So when you think about fashion for the opposite sex, so if you think about men's fashion, is there anything that you find off-putting specifically with men's fashion? And what do you like as far as men's fashion is concerned? Is there anything that you're like, ooh, I like that vibe?

Pamela: 38:37

I mean, I like clean. You know, I I don't I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, metro. I like a very clean look. Okay. Um, you know, a very tailored look. Um one of my one of the my favorite things that Josh wears is a black button-down rolled-up sleeve, um, shirt, you know, under shirt underneath, jeans, black boots. Um yeah, like just a very clean yeah.

Josh: 39:15

Is there anything about men's fashion in general that turns you off?

Pamela: 39:18

Like, like it's just like probably like the cargo shorts and new balance, like it's just not my jam.

Josh: 39:27

Yeah, yeah.

Pamela: 39:28

You I don't know though, like I'm also not super great at paying attention to stuff like that. Like, it has to be really obvious for me to be like, however, though, okay, throwback to early to mid-2000s, Kentucky State Fair. Okay, we would play the fashion police.

Josh: 39:51

Okay.

Pamela: 39:52

Okay.

Josh: 39:53

All right, I'm on board.

Pamela: 39:55

Uh-huh. So maybe Kentucky State Fair fashion is off putting for me.

Josh: 40:02

Okay. I'm here for the words. Um man. I don't so as far as men's fashion's concerned, like what I don't really understand, and I'm just gonna sound like I'm gonna sound so good off my lawn right now, but I don't really understand the modern teenager early 20s guy vibe right now. Like, I don't understand the mustache and the mullet.

Pamela: 40:29

I don't understand that like I've also never understood super oversized t-shirts. Yeah, like the super like the biggest t-shirt you could find. Like I or a $60 t-shirt. Are you insane?

Josh: 40:47

Right.

Pamela: 40:47

Like, like, I don't like clothes that are super expensive, yeah, like that. Like, I'll have like maybe a couple of nice outfits that I wear for special occasions, but I'm not buying your $170 jeans. I'm not buying your $120 t-shirt.

Josh: 41:03

Yeah, okay.

Pamela: 41:03

Next. Next a dog breed you are not fond of.

Josh: 41:10

Oh, what's a dog breed you're not fond of?

Pamela: 41:12

Anything doodle. Anything doodle. First of all, poodles, I didn't like to begin with. Like, they're not nice, they're not nice dogs, and they're really big. Like, everybody's used to like the mint miniature poodles. No, um, and then yeah, I'm gonna get all the internet hate, and I'm okay with that, but anything doodle is just everybody's like, oh, they're so cute. No, they're not. No, they're not.

Josh: 41:41

Well, and they're also neurotic.

Pamela: 41:44

I know some doodles, and they are and they require a lot of maintenance, and people don't realize like you've got to brush them, like you've got to maintain those coats. Like, I'm one to talk with my cavalier whose ears get matted on the daily.

Josh: 41:57

But um but you take care of it.

Pamela: 41:59

I try. Yeah, he gets keep up. I'm I just go, I'm like, shave him. He's forever puppy cut. Yeah, um, yeah, but they're just I just I don't think they're cute. I don't think their puppies are cute. I don't, I just don't like doodles. I don't, I don't understand the hype.

Josh: 42:19

Yeah, I I anything that is that sort of crossbred, it just And it's a mutt.

Pamela: 42:26

It's a mutt, it is and people get all worked up about like purebreds and all this stuff, and I'm like, you are spending thousands on a mutt, thousands, thousands of dollars, thousands on a mutt. Yeah, it is a mutt, it is a mixed breed.

Josh: 42:41

I I have met exactly one doodle that I thought was cool, and it was actually a labor doodle, it wasn't a golden doodle, and so it was a little bigger, and I could the lab features were kind of more a little more prominent than what I've seen in other doodles, and I was like, okay, this dog's cool, but a lot of other doodles I've met are just neurotic and crazy and yeah, so it can be a lot. I don't really like chihuahuas. Okay, I I just they're nervous, they're so nervous, they're shaky, they're yappy. Yeah, and I've met some that I like. Shout out to my buddy Matt if you're listening. Uh your dog's cool, man.

Pamela: 43:20

Um and the chick that did Krista's tattoo.

Josh: 43:23

Yeah, that's true. Stephanie. Stephanie, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Pamela: 43:26

That if he she was nervous, but she was cute.

Josh: 43:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pamela: 43:29

But in general, I don't like Wimeriners. Or not Wimeriners. Not no, I like Wimeriners, no uh wiener dogs.

Josh: 43:38

Yeah, dachshunds.

Pamela: 43:39

No, thank you.

Josh: 43:40

That's the only dog that has ever bit me. Is it I suppressed?

Pamela: 43:44

Yeah, they're jerks.

Josh: 43:45

It chased me around a parking lot and I thought we were goofing around. Like I was laughing and I thought we were having fun. And then when when that thing caught me, it bit my ankle hard.

Pamela: 43:54

The long, the long haired ones are cute, but no, they're not nice. A lot of small dogs aren't nice. That's why I always wanted big dogs when we were adopting dogs. Um, plus we had like the big yard, but I didn't want anything yappy and mean and nervous. So that's always very it took me a long time. I was like, I know I want like a little lap dog, but I don't know what I want. And that's when I settled on the Cavalier King Charles Spanish.

Josh: 44:19

Yeah, which is, I mean, shout out to Tuk Tuk. Um, okay, someone you think should retire immediately. Most of Congress. Um, anyone who has served more than like five terms and or is over the age of 65, currently serving in Congress, you can go.

Pamela: 44:39

Like, yeah, uh one in particular is finally retiring who's been a senator for Kentucky as long as I've been alive.

Josh: 44:46

Mitch McConnell. Yes.

Pamela: 44:48

This is not okay. Listen, if we're gonna hate on people having jobs at McDonald's, I'm gonna hate on career politicians.

Josh: 44:56

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Pamela: 44:58

Like I'm with you. No, we need there's a reason why we have term limits with the president. We got to keep things fresh and new and new ideas. And I mean, it's pretty obvious that we are in the state that we are in because we have career politicians on both sides. Both sides of the aisle. Like, this is not this is not a partisan issue or whatever. Um, this is both sides of the aisle have got to go.

Josh: 45:24

Well, and and I I'm completely with you. I I don't think that a career politician really serves the best interest of constituents ever. And like with tremendous respect to somebody like Nancy Pelosi, who I do think had a remarkable career. She she broke a lot of glass ceilings. There's a lot about her that I respect. And I know that part of why she says that she stayed in Congress is because Trump was elected and she wanted to basically try and serve as some sort of buffer for the Trump administration. Okay, that's admirable. I get it. And you're like 84, dude. Like, and I'm not uh like she's capable and smart, and when I listen to interviews with her, I'm impressed. And this can't be like that, that can't be where our leadership comes from. It can't be the only place our leadership comes from, and it has felt like the only place our leadership has come from for a long time. I mean, you know, I I didn't want Biden to rerun.

Pamela: 46:24

No, I didn't either.

Josh: 46:25

Yeah, I I I did not want somebody that was going to be a global office.

Pamela: 46:32

I can't even say I wanted Biden the first time.

Josh: 46:34

I didn't really.

Pamela: 46:35

But it was more of the lesser of two evils. Um not that I think Biden's evil, but it was just like we knew he wasn't gonna be doing much. No, but it was pretty much a vote of let's not make things worse like they are now. Basically avoid what we're going through right now.

Josh: 46:52

Yeah. So I mean, I I know I went political with this question, but it is really how I feel. Someone who should retire immediately. Okay, I'll give you a lighthearted one just for funsies. Um, someone you think she should retire immediately. Jerry Jones, the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Oh. I need him to go away. Go away, Jerry. Go away. Take Steven with you and go away. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Anyhow. Let's do one more and then we can we can we can call it. Last one, ladies and gentlemen.

Pamela: 47:20

A popular cartoon character that annoys you.

Josh: 47:23

Oh, okay. This is a good one. I gotta think about this. Popular cartoon character that's annoying.

Pamela: 47:29

The first one that came to mind was Bugs Bunny.

Josh: 47:34

Yeah, I'm kind of indifferent on Bugs, but I see how he's annoying.

Pamela: 47:37

I don't know. Like I grew up with Looney Tunes. I love Taz.

Josh: 47:41

Yeah, Taz is great.

Pamela: 47:43

Tazmanian Devil. Uh I just never got into the whole Bugs Bunny hype.

Josh: 47:49

Yeah, Bugs Bunny, Wiley Coyote, all that kind of stuff. That was definitely an era. Um I also love Taz. In the Looney Tunes, especially in the more modern take on Looney Tunes, um, one of my favorites, and I know this is what cartoon character annoys you, and I'll get to that, but uh, did you watch Pinky and the Brain?

Pamela: 48:08

Yes.

Josh: 48:09

I loved Pinky and the Brain. Uh-huh. I watched them religiously.

Pamela: 48:12

Animaniacs, all of that.

Josh: 48:14

Love the Animaniacs.

Pamela: 48:16

Yeah.

Josh: 48:16

Um, I loved Ren and Stimpy. I wasn't allowed to watch it. I wasn't allowed.

Pamela: 48:20

We didn't have we didn't have Nickelodeon. Yeah, we didn't either.

Josh: 48:23

And I was well, I was a I was a boy. And so you have to lower the bar for the boy.

Pamela: 48:28

So it's back on, and you can go back and re-watch it. It doesn't hold it. Yeah, it's like I'm not surprised by that.

Josh: 48:35

It's kind of um okay. This will be controversial. Sometimes I think Spongebob's annoying.

Pamela: 48:44

I've never been into SpongeBob.

Josh: 48:46

Yeah. I think there's a huge group of people out there that that just worships the water SpongeBob swims in. But I I don't know. Like there are there are moments I've seen that I'm like, okay, that's funny. But for the most part, I'm like, it just doesn't do it for me. Um and there's been some like popular cartoon movies and stuff like that that I s I haven't really connected with. Um but yeah.

Pamela: 49:12

Oh, you know what? Another one that annoys me, and I th maybe it just annoys me because it's one of Josh's favorites, is Archer.

Josh: 49:19

Okay, yeah. I've seen a little bit of Archer.

Pamela: 49:22

I don't dislike it. It's just he watches it. He's like, oh, anytime. Well, I don't, I'm not particularly fond of cartoons to begin with, like adult cartoons to begin with, but I don't know what it is when I walk in the bedroom and Archer is on, I'm just like, turn this ish off. Like he it's not, it's not bad. Yeah, it's a particular brand of humor, you know, and I will sit and listen to it, like and some of it's funny, um, but I don't know. Like, I'm just like, I don't want to watch adult cartoons right now.

Josh: 50:00

Yeah, yeah, I get that.

Pamela: 50:01

And that's his whole personality.

unknown: 50:03

No, not really.

Josh: 50:04

Well, tell us what cartoon character annoys you. Um who you think should retire, and who you think you should retire, and any any big opinions you have on current fashion, um, something about fashion that turns you off, we would love to know. Um, start a conversation with us.

Pamela: 50:18

I want your bad opinions.

Josh: 50:19

Yes, yeah, yeah. So once again, this is bad opinions from Dice Games. We did not play it by the rules as if that wasn't painfully obvious, but we have uh just kind of gone through some of the cards. But the rules to this game are actually pretty interesting, and it's a I think it'd be a lot of fun in a group setting, and I I want to try in a group setting. Um but yeah, this was this was a good one, and we hope that you go out and check them out and use the link in our bio to do so. As always, follow us on all the things. Um, the YouTubes, the TikToks, the Instagrams, the substacks, the substacks, the Facebooks, especially the substacks.

Pamela: 50:55

Yes.

Josh: 50:55

That's where we really want you. If we had to pick one, that's the one.

Pamela: 50:59

Um second would be YouTube.

Josh: 51:00

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Pamela: 51:13

And let us know if there's anything that you want us to chat about.

Josh: 51:16

Yeah, yeah. Or interviews you want or things like that.

Pamela: 51:18

Lives. We we do want to do some lives. I keep talking about dropping hot mess, Madeline. I need to get that out there. You have edited it, edited it, did it, did it, did it? Is that it's ready to go. Yeah. Um, I've just been slacking.

Josh: 51:34

No, you haven't. You've been working, and I have been working. Yeah.

Pamela: 51:37

I mean, but it this was like pre-Thanksgiving.

Josh: 51:42

I wasn't gonna say anything, but you know, it's fine. But it's still good.

Pamela: 51:45

Yeah, still good, still relevant.

Josh: 51:46

Yeah. Oh, definitely still relevant. Um, so yeah, it'll be worth your time. But anyway, do all the liking and subscribing and following, please, and um, we will do our best to be back in your ear holes as soon as possible.

Pamela: 51:58

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Josh: 52:20

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